Talk:Syrian pound
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Deletion of all references to £S
[edit]Per WP:BRD, I have reverted a bold edit that deleted all instances of £S from the article. Use of the abbreviation £S in Syria is well documented, even if the [dubiously legitimate] Government of Syria appears to have stopped using it. Any proposal to "de-emphasise" it in this article requires consensus. Better evidence than WP:OR examination of recent government-issue banknotes would be wise.
Even if we find that an official GoS statement deprecating its use has been made, we must still document historic use. John Maynard Friedman (talk) 10:02, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- The change may well be valid but it needs to be more soundly based. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:39, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- I would be happy to work together to find a consensus. TheCurrencyGuy (talk) 14:02, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- There are precious few references to the Syrian pound in most Western media outlets, but the IMF and the World Bank both primarily use "LS" as the abbreviation for the Syrian pound.
- The World Bank's digitised documents show use of "LS", "SP" and "£S", but "LS" is by far the most commonly used (and is recommended on page 138 of their style guide).
- World Bank documents using "LS"
- 22nd of March, 1951, 8th of May, 1973, 17th of May, 1973, 4th of June, 1975, 31st of March, 1976, 16th of June, 1976, 22nd of June, 1976, 1st of June, 1977, 30th of June, 1977, 1st of September, 1977, 2nd of March, 1978, 2nd of March, 1978 II, 23rd of March, 1978, 2nd of November, 1978, 28th of March, 1979, 3rd of March, 1981, 14th of December, 1983, 23rd of August, 1985, 27th of December, 1985, 9th of January, 1987, 28th of February, 1990, November, 2009
- World Bank documents using "£S"
- 23rd of October, 1963<--Uses "LS" and "£S" interchangeably. 15th of October, 1984
- World Bank documents using "SP"
- 28th of June, 1985, 8th of June, 2005
- IMF documents using "LS"
- October, 2005, 9th of August, 2006, 26th of January, 2009, 13th of February, 2009, 3rd of February, 2010, 25th of March, 2010, 31st of March, 2010, June, 2016
- IMF documents using "SP"
- 15th of August, 2007, 1st of August, 2008, 13th of February, 2009
- As an aside, and relevant to the related discussion at talk:Lebanese pound, similar results are returned for that currency as well. It seems the Syrian and Lebanese pounds largely stopped being abbreviated as "£S" and "£L" in domestic sources sometime in the 1960s, with legacy use outside of the Levant continuing until the 1990s. Postage stamps are a little unhelpful, until the 1980s Syrian and Lebanese stamps all cited their value only in piastres, even when the value could be in thousands of piastres. At present, Lebanese stamps use "LL". Syrian stamps, unusually, use "ل" in conjunction with Western numerals.
- My proposal is that we follow the consensus reached at talk:Egyptian pound and note the historic use of "£S" and "£L", while predominantly using "LS" and "LL" to denote sums of money and denominations. TheCurrencyGuy (talk) 04:57, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, we may regard the EGP consensus as being equally applicable here, without further debate. I assume you will apply.
- A discussion at another article can't be used to make the same change without notice at Lebanese pound. A similar record of agreement (as has been made here) needs to be made at talk:Lebanese pound before changing that article. It would be best to collect and record a similar body of evidence as you have done here. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 08:29, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Roger, wilko! I'll get that done. TheCurrencyGuy (talk) 12:38, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, we may regard the EGP consensus as being equally applicable here, without further debate. I assume you will apply.
- I would be happy to work together to find a consensus. TheCurrencyGuy (talk) 14:02, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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Blank images for Syrian Pound
[edit]I'm having trouble uploading a screenshot of the display problem on Syrian_pound that I was trying to fix. Here's an imgur link: https://imgur.com/a/TWOc3Au
Best I can tell image_left:
is rendered differently without a file. Adding image_left: File:blank.png
(as I did here) fixes the problem.
cc @JMF: Elimen (talk) 21:38, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- odd. I just saw a big blank patch that looked for all the world like deliberate disruption. Maybe best ask the Teahouse? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 23:00, 8 January 2024 (UTC)